How do you have a relationship that feels peaceful and loving, rather than feeling like a rollercoaster? In all phases, from dating to long term relationships, this is something clients tell me they want most. Therapist and author Jessica Baum joins me to explore why safety is essential for real love, and what the foundations of a healthy relationship are.
We dive deep into attachment theory, nervous system regulation, and the biology of trust, exploring how early attachment wounds shape your adult dynamics, and usually not for the better. You’ll learn what healing requires, and how to create the secure, loving bond you’ve always longed for, but were never taught how. We talk about how to heal, and even bypass, the struggles most people face in love and relationships.
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How to Heal Attachment Wounds and Feel Safe in Love: Show Notes
Because love can feel incredibly joyful and pleasurable, it can also cause deep pain and hurt.
In any phase of a relationship, if love feels unstable, or we lose the love we’ve had, our hearts can feel cracked open, even broken.
It’s so common to feel anxious, disconnected, or unsafe, even when love seems like it should create the opposite feelings.
In this week’s episode of the Practicing Love podcast, I talk with Jessica Baum, LMHC, therapist and author of SAFE: A Journey to Inner Safety and Healing Attachment Wounds. We talk about what it truly takes to create healthy, connected relationships where each person feels safe.
Jessica and I explore how attachment theory and interpersonal neurobiology have a profound effect on our well-being in love. We talk about….
- How healing happens in relationships, not in isolation
- Why your nervous system is scanning for safety, and tracking micro-disconnections, even when your mind doesn’t realize it
- How to shift from your wounds picking a partner to consciously choosing
- Using vulnerability as the doorway to REAL LOVE and lasting connection
Unless we heal the patterns that create disconnection and fear, we repeat old habits that create a lot of suffering. You’ll get a better sense of your own attachment style, and how you can build real safety in your relationships.
This conversation is based in science, and will give you hope — whether you’re single, dating, or in a long-term relationship. And if you haven’t read Jessica’s book, SAFE, yet, I highly recommend it — it’s a beautiful companion to this episode. You’ll find the link here.
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Bio:
JESSICA BAUM is a licensed psychotherapist whose journey began with a lifelong curiosity about the “Whys” of life—why we feel, connect, and experience the world the way we do. This passion led her to specialize in trauma, attachment theory, and interpersonal neurobiology. Jessica believes that connection—to ourselves and others—is at the heart of healing, and she uses a range of modalities to help individuals and couples return to wholeness. She is the founder of the Relationship Institute of Palm Beach, a private group practice, and she leads the Conscious Relationship Group, a global coaching company offering support to clients worldwide. Jessica is a certified addiction specialist and Imago couples therapist with advanced training in EMDR, experiential therapy, CBT, and DBT. Her bestselling book, Anxiously Attached: Becoming More Secure in Life and Love, established her as a trusted authority on healing attachment wounds and building secure, fulfilling relationships.
Transcript:
Shana James (00:01.684)
Hello and welcome to this episode of Practicing Love. I’m your host, Shana James, and I’m so happy to be here today with a woman who is incredibly wise and experienced. You are in for a treat!
We’re going to talk about attachment theory and how to heal attachment wounds. We’ll also touch on interpersonal neurobiology and how to create safety in relationships — so you can actually feel safe in love.
Her new book, Safe, is just coming out, and she’s also the author of Anxiously Attached. She’s a licensed psychotherapist, and you are in for an amazing conversation.
Welcome, Jessica Baum. Thank you so much for being here today.
Jessica Baum (00:39.960)
Thank you so much for having me. I’m excited for our conversation.
Shana James (00:44.056)
Me too. In true Practicing Love fashion, I usually like to start by asking — what’s your current relationship status, or is there anything interesting in your relationship history that’s led you to where you are today?
Jessica Baum (01:00.332)
Yeah, I’m currently dating. I’d say all of my relationships have led me to where I am today, but in particular, the last one I was in brought up the most work for me — both within it and after it.
It was the most profound love of my life and also the most profound grief. That relationship really pushed me deeper into studying attachment theory and interpersonal neurobiology because it woke up so much in me — around my family, my childhood, and my patterns. It was a deep love and a hard one to leave.
Shana James (01:48.604)
Yeah. I really admire that you clearly go deep and take the growth process seriously — you’re not just writing about this or working with clients, you’re also doing your own work.
Jessica Baum (02:04.174)
One hundred percent. I’ve been working with my therapist for almost five years now. She’s amazing and specializes in interpersonal neurobiology. She’s made me sit with and meet all my parts, sit in uncomfortable situations, and really challenged me.
She’s transformed my life. I actually write about her in my book — about how having truly safe people, who can hold deep space for you, is profoundly transformative.
Shana James (02:35.614)
Yes. There’s really nothing like it. I often say on the podcast that it’s hard to put into words what it’s like to be in a relationship where you’re welcomed, understood, and accepted — where there’s this co-created process of learning, growing, and healing together.
So, I’m excited to hear more from you. One question that comes to mind — with your book called Safe, how do you describe safety so that people really get what that means?
Jessica Baum (03:18.594)
I talk about healing from a biological level — what we actually need to heal deep attachment wounds. One of the most important things we need is what I call “an anchor.”
An anchor is a person who has the capacity to hold space. It doesn’t have to be a therapist or a coach — though some therapists and coaches can do this — it can also be a friend or loved one.
The key is that their nervous system is regulated enough — what we call a “ventral state” — so that when you become dysregulated, they can stay grounded. That allows your nervous system to regress, get dysregulated, and then experience co-regulation.
In that process, memories surface and neural pathways open. It’s in the presence of real safety — when our nervous system recognizes another’s as calm and steady — that our deepest healing happens.
That’s often what happens in a therapeutic relationship. The state of safety itself is the treatment.
Shana James (04:30.794)
Yeah.
Jessica Baum (04:38.390)
A lot of that is deeply explored in the book. It follows Stephen Porges’ work, where he talks about the nervous system, connection, and what we truly need in order to heal.
Shana James (04:51.412)
I love that. One thing that strikes me as you say that — it’s one thing to talk about safety on a basic level, like, “I’m safe because this person isn’t hurting me,” or “they’re kind and welcoming.”
But on a nervous system level, to be in a dynamic — with a coach, therapist, or partner — where you can actually let down, as I feel it sometimes… it’s like, “I can finally be and experience all these past things that shaped me — my struggles and wounds — and do that while being loved and held.”
Jessica Baum (05:47.680)
Yes. When you’re looking at attachment wounds, there’s often shame. But what you’re describing — that shift into vulnerability — is where real healing happens.
That kind of vulnerability can be really hard, especially if we didn’t receive that kind of holding as children. When we start to receive it as adults, it can actually feel foreign to our nervous systems.
Shana James (06:25.000)
Yes — and surprising, too. I think people often expect that once they feel safe, they’ll just feel happy or good. But what we both know is that safety often brings up old history — layers that still need to be integrated — not just immediate contentment.
Jessica Baum (06:50.316)
Exactly. Our nervous system doesn’t work that way.
For example, if we were dating and I felt safe with you, but then you missed my call three times in a row, or rolled your eyes, or gave me a blank stare — my nervous system would interpret that as a threat or disconnection.
Our systems are constantly scanning for safety, and even small “micro-disconnections” can activate us quickly. The closer someone is to us, the more we’re impacted by their micro-movements and patterns.
So we might think, “I felt really safe in the beginning of this relationship,” but then as our protectors and wounds start surfacing — after that initial blissful phase — we start to feel unsafe again.
That’s actually the moment when the deeper work of healing begins.
Shana James (07:54.942)
Yes, beautifully said. Instead of throwing a relationship away because it no longer feels easy or blissful, that’s actually when the real work starts.
I write a lot about vulnerability in my book Honest Sex — about a kind of honesty that goes to those deeper, more vulnerable layers, not just the surface stuff we fight about.
And as you said, vulnerability can be one of the hardest things to do. I’m curious — since you mentioned it’s been hard for you — what has helped you feel safer being vulnerable?
Jessica Baum (08:43.138)
Well, the irony is that I moved into a very safe environment and had an exceptional therapist — and that’s exactly when my deepest work showed up.
With a lot of attachment wounds, there’s shame in being seen fully. After writing my first book, I thought, “I’ve got this — I have a partner who’s doing the work.” And he was, for a while. But when it got too vulnerable, he stopped, and I had to leave.
As someone with all the knowledge, resources, and support, I realized — I had to walk my talk. I had to keep showing up.
My therapist didn’t make it easy — it was uncomfortable, but life-changing. Meeting my terrified parts, challenging my protective beliefs — all of it was hard. But the freedom that came afterward was profound.
We’re always healing, loving, and evolving. But after going through that deep abandonment work, I came out with a sense of space, freedom, and capacity to form healthy attachments.
During it, though? I was hanging on for dear life.
Shana James (10:31.796)
Dear life, yes — yes. There are so many things I could say in response. I’m thinking of one of my favorite quotes from Viktor Frankl’s Man’s Search for Meaning — his distinction that between stimulus and response, there is a space.
For most people, there’s this automatic reaction instead of that pause. But when we have enough space, as you just said, in our nervous systems, we can calmly witness what’s happening and say, “I just got really triggered by that,” or “This is an old pattern or wound.”
When you talk about being with your therapist and facing those parts, could you give an example of what that actually looks like — to face those deepest parts or wounds?
Jessica Baum (11:22.488)
Yeah. In Chapter 8, I talk about the brain science behind that and refer to it as response flexibility.
When we’re in a state of co-regulation with someone as we heal, we’re using that person’s nervous system as a container to safely re-experience our original wounds. We’re expanding our own window of tolerance — our capacity to be with what’s inside us.
Over time, things might lessen, but it’s not that they completely go away. With support, our ability to be with more of what’s inside us expands.
For a long time, I didn’t even know what was there. I was miserable at times, a workaholic, avoiding and distracting myself. It wasn’t until I had truly safe people and a safe environment that profound work started showing up.
Shana James (12:33.598)
Yeah. So what was it like when you met that terrified part you mentioned earlier?
Jessica Baum (12:40.430)
Pure terror. A little girl. I write about it in the book — at one point I even regressed to being in a crib. I remember thinking it was spirit coming to me, but it was really a memory — I screamed and screamed until I collapsed.
Shana James (12:42.996)
You literally experienced that?
Jessica Baum (13:02.882)
Yes. If you study neuroscience, you learn that this is actually a cycle — the body screams out of terror until it can’t anymore, and then the system collapses. That’s what happens when you leave a baby alone to cry.
As I was doing this work, my memory system allowed me to regress far enough to understand what a very young part of me had experienced.
It sounds terrifying — and it was — but my therapist friends were like, “That’s amazing!” while my non-therapist friends were like, “That’s horrifying!”
But integration is the goal. I had to re-experience and integrate my story. I tried to be grateful for what was surfacing and trust that I could hold it.
Jessica Baum (14:01.410)
We carry implicit memory — things that have happened to us are always with us. If something similar happens in the present, it activates those early memories.
At the time, I was living in an apartment next to a neighbor who used substances, and it regressed me back to being four years old, living near my dad who was also using substances. That’s how memory works — we recreate and re-experience.
We pick partners and situations that mirror those early dynamics — not to torture ourselves, but to heal and become conscious.
The goal isn’t to live in trauma or stay bonded to it, but to understand the core wound and integrate it so we’re not stuck there.
Shana James (15:13.216)
Yes, I love that. The goal is to understand and integrate the core wound so we’re not stuck in it.
Part of the reason I called this podcast Practicing Love is because I don’t believe we ever 100% “heal.” It’s not like a bone that breaks and fully mends. Often there’s residual pain — and emotionally, spiritually, or energetically, it feels similar.
We can have more space and capacity, but not complete erasure. So, as you said, we witness from more presence. Is that how you see it too?
Jessica Baum (16:06.370)
Yes. In my book, I use the words awakening or activation instead of trigger.
As we heal, we form a new relationship with that part of ourselves. We start to speak to it differently. We have more space to respond instead of react — and that gives us more choice.
On a bad day, my inner little girl might still go into terror. But before healing, I would have unconsciously chosen partners whose behaviors reawakened her.
Now, when she speaks, it’s more like a whisper than a scream. She’s not making all my choices — though sometimes she still makes a few! But I’m aware.
People who haven’t healed yet often let the wound “pick” the next person or situation. That’s why we find ourselves saying, “Here I am again — abandoned, unlovable, not enough.”
We repeat these themes until we heal. The goal is to become conscious of them, go to the original wound, and integrate it — so we’re no longer operating from that unhealed part or gravitating toward what’s familiar but painful.
Shana James (17:30.206)
Yes, exactly. What does the integration process look like for you — or how do you guide others through it?
Jessica Baum (17:37.752)
Integration is about re-experiencing, re-witnessing, and giving yourself what you didn’t get at the time of the original wound.
If you were abandoned, you’re met. If you were shamed, you’re accepted. It’s about re-experiencing those moments — but this time, in the presence of a safe nervous system.
These memories live in the body as sensational memory — physical sensations that move up through the right hemisphere, are experienced, and then integrated into the left hemisphere.
In the book, I explain how attachment and memory are stored in the body — and what real integration means from a scientific perspective.
Shana James (18:23.274)
So good. You have so much wisdom. What are we not talking about that you think would really help people?
Jessica Baum (18:38.158)
Your questions are so good! I’m thinking about people who keep attracting the same type of partners or struggling in relationships.
Maybe we can talk a little about attachment theory itself — since some listeners might not be familiar.
Shana James (18:53.472)
Some are, some aren’t — but yes, give us a bit more about that.
Jessica Baum (18:57.974)
Attachment theory has been around since the 1950s and is incredibly well-researched. It explains so much.
Essentially, it describes how we adapt to our primary caregivers. There are four categories:
- Secure
- Anxious (which I wrote about in Anxiously Attached)
- Avoidant
- Disorganized (sometimes called fearful-avoidant)
Secure people aren’t perfect — they just had caregivers who were emotionally present and attuned enough that they developed an inherent sense of self-worth and expectation that their needs would be met.
They tend to attract partners who can meet their needs and are comfortable with both closeness and space. When they get dysregulated, they return to homeostasis more easily.
It doesn’t mean they have perfect relationships — but they usually trust that their needs can and will be met.
[20:13.642] Shana James:
That cycle is so fascinating, right? Because the more you experience someone who actually does meet your needs, the next time you’re in a relationship, you’re like, “I’m not going to settle for someone who doesn’t meet my needs the way the last person did.”
But if you’re stuck in that cycle where your needs aren’t being met, that just starts to seem like the norm.
[20:31.234] Jessica Baum:
Yeah, and you have to be careful, because there are certain personality styles that will come in and figure out exactly what needs weren’t met for you — and they’ll meet those needs at first. You feel like you’re finally getting your childhood needs met, and then that changes later in the relationship. It’s tricky, because you can get hooked in that dynamic.
The other three kinds of attachment are disorganized (or fearful), anxious, and avoidant. I would say the hallmark of anxious attachment is inconsistency. And I say “we” because we all have elements of different styles — very few people fit neatly into one category.
[21:11.294] Shana James:
I was going to say, I feel like for me, I tend to be more anxious in the beginning, and then once the relationship is established, I can be more avoidant. There’s more than just one.
[21:19.510] Jessica Baum:
Exactly. And for your listeners — I have a free downloadable PDF that explains the Wheel of Attachment and each attachment style. It’ll be linked in the show notes so people can really understand it, because Safe talks about it in a more holistic way.
For those who tend toward anxious attachment as their default, the hallmark is inconsistency and a conscious awareness of potential abandonment. As babies, we leave our own nervous systems to attend to our caregivers. Later, we become adults who can read the room, anticipate other people’s needs, come to the rescue — really people-pleasing types of traits.
When anxious people get scared, we usually get bigger — our energy expands.
[22:17.516] Jessica Baum (cont’d):
On the other side of the coin are the avoidant types. Avoidants often get a bad rap, but a true avoidant grew up with a parent who didn’t meet many emotional needs. So that child learned to focus on success, performance, and achievement. They can appear stoic, which is often appealing to anxious partners, but underneath, they struggle with anxiety too. They can feel suffocated in relationships.
Then there’s disorganized attachment — or what’s often called fearful-avoidant. I had pockets of disorganization show up in certain situations, though I’m mostly secure these days. It’s when our inner and outer worlds both feel unsafe, and we have no one to orient to.
You can’t go toward your partner because they’re unavailable, but you’re also terrified to be alone. That’s what happens for an infant who was neglected or abused — we crave connection, but we’re scared of it.
In Safe, I talk about the Wheel of Attachment and how we can move around that wheel. Whether it’s your first time learning about attachment or you already know some theory, you’ll walk away with a much more nuanced understanding.
[23:57.034] Shana James:
That’s so great. I haven’t seen your wheel — I’ve only seen the quadrant charts. So this sounds like a much more dynamic and layered way for people to track themselves, rather than just fitting into a box.
[24:14.830] Jessica Baum:
Exactly. It helps you get beyond just the label. I know it’s ironic since I wrote Anxiously Attached, but I actually had a lot of avoidant protectors too. Like you said, you can show up anxious at first and then become avoidant later.
We’re rarely just one attachment style. Understanding the layers makes relationships so much easier to navigate.
[24:38.368] Shana James:
Yes, and you mentioned “parts” too. I love working with clients around their different parts — even dialoguing with them sometimes or understanding where they come from.
We grow up thinking we’re one coherent being, and that creates inner conflict — like, “I’m not an arrogant person,” but then we have a moment that feels arrogant, or we notice that insecurity and arrogance might coexist. Recognizing that we have parts rather than a single, fixed identity can make it easier to accept ourselves.
Do you want to say a little about how you work with parts?
[25:40.206] Jessica Baum:
Yeah, so IFS — Internal Family Systems — is what you’re referring to. Safe is modeled after that, though when I do therapy, I also bring in more body awareness.
When we’re in relationships, it’s easy to label someone: “You’re angry,” “You’re a jerk,” “You’re narcissistic.” But really, we all have these parts. Some people have what’s called a narcissistic wound, which I explain in the book, but all of us have protective parts that show up in different ways.
The goal isn’t to judge those behaviors but to look underneath and see what those reactions are protecting us from.
[26:33.504] Shana James:
That’s so good. There’s so much compassion and empathy in that approach. I work with clients on having curiosity for their partner too, which takes a regulated nervous system — the ability to pause and think, “Wow, I really want to attack right now, but how can I soothe myself enough to get curious about what’s happening over there?”
Those are some of the hardest moments for couples — when they want to tear each other’s eyes out but need to come back to themselves.
[27:12.942] Jessica Baum:
Absolutely. I do a lot of couples work — I’m a certified Imago therapist — and I love that model because it shows how we pick people who recreate our childhood wounds.
In Safe, I write about a past partner. There was a point where we were both doing the work, but eventually, I chose to keep going deeper and he decided it was too hard. I remember the exact moment that happened, and about a year later, I could feel the relationship diverging.
The truth is, you can heal in partnership. Wounding happens in relationship, and healing happens there too. I love Imago and couples work, but it takes two willing people. If the wounding is very young, sometimes individual work has to happen first or alongside the couples work.
[28:14.484] Shana James:
Yes, I agree. It’s so interesting to sit with couples and see that sometimes one person really needs to dive deep into their nervous system or history before they can come back and co-regulate with their partner.
[28:38.434] Jessica Baum:
Exactly. And often, both partners are regressing at the same time — their nervous systems are talking to each other. I was helping a couple today: the man’s mother is declining, so he’s irritable when he comes home, and his wife immediately becomes irritable too. Suddenly, they’re no longer a team.
Our nervous systems are always telepathic — through tone, eye contact, facial expression — constantly signaling, “Am I safe? Are you with me?”
When one person’s nervous system goes into activation or shutdown, it impacts the other like a domino effect. Couples can get stuck in those patterns.
But with a little psychoeducation and awareness — recognizing, “Okay, my partner is in this state, and it’s triggering this state in me” — they can start to find their way back to connection.
[29:49.546] Shana James:
Right. Amazing — to have that shared understanding, that awareness of the we. I love how you said we’re “telepathic.” It’s like we’re transmitting on a frequency, and our partner starts vibrating at the same level. And most people don’t even realize that’s happening.
Jessica Baum (30:22.99)
Absolutely, and it can be as simple as me picking up my phone right now and looking at it — and you could be like, “My god, I’m feeling so unseen and dismissed and my system’s on fire.” And it’s like, of course it is. Little things can really set us off.
Shana James (30:40.488)
Especially these days, right? There are so many more opportunities — with screens and phones and everything happening so fast. There’s so much going on in the world and in politics. There are just so many opportunities for… well, I would have said “trigger,” but I love your word “activation” in all of these moments.
Jessica Baum (31:04.594)
Yes. And I talk about this in the book — I use the word awakening. Because when you start to understand memory, younger parts of us are being awakened all the time.
Even just saying, “My god, something just got awakened in me,” changes my relationship to my internal experience. I used to say “triggered,” and I have a lot of emotions, but there was so much shame and even a sense of violence or repetition attached to that word.
So I changed it to awakened, sometimes activated. When I say, “Something just got awakened in me,” my whole relationship to what’s going on inside my body shifts.
Shana James (31:34.719)
Yeah.
Shana James (31:45.204)
You can really feel the opening in that word. “Trigger” feels a little more like a closing — there’s shame in it.
Jessica Baum (31:53.826)
For me, it carried a lot of shame. “Here I am again, I’m triggered.” I hated that.
Shana James (31:58.494)
Right — the “Aren’t I over this one yet? Haven’t I done enough work that this shouldn’t be happening anymore?” kind of thing. Yeah.
Okay, this has been amazing. Before we complete, is there anything missing for you? I know this is just a small taster and there’s so much more — I highly recommend everyone read the book — but is there anything else you want to add?
Jessica Baum (32:24.332)
Yes — the book! I think by the time you release this, it’ll already be out. You can get it on Amazon, you can get it everywhere.
Shana James (32:34.174)
Yes, for those listening who aren’t seeing us, it’s called Safe.
Jessica Baum (32:38.166)
Yes, Safe: An Attachment-Informed Guide to Building More Secure Relationships by me, Jessica Baum.
For your audience, I’ve included a couple of free gifts — “Beyond the Labels,” where you can look at the attachment wheel right away, and a 40-minute conversation between me and my mentor, Bonnie Badenoch, about the internal process of moving from insecurity to security. She’s brilliant, and we do a deep dive into what that process feels like.
She’s influenced so much of this book, and I wanted to give listeners a sense of her wisdom. So if you fill out the form and order the book, those free gifts — the wheel and the video — come right away. (Check your spam just in case!)
I’m also on Instagram, @JessicaBaumLMHC. If you buy the book and have feedback, please reach out. I really do try to respond to everyone. You’re important to me if you’re doing this work. This book is a great companion for people working with you, or anyone on the path who wants to go deeper.
Shana James (34:08.448)
Amazing. Thank you so much for bringing this blend of humility, courage, and that hunger to grow and understand what it really means to be human — to love and be loved.
I hope you find that love, because it feels like such a beautiful offering you’re bringing to the world. I want you to be met in that way, too.
Jessica Baum (34:40.856)
I feel like I have — I just got chills. I’m newly dating, but I have so much love in my life because, instead of relying on one romantic partner, I’ve learned to rely on my anchors — my close friends and community.
So many of my relationships fill me. As someone who’s anxiously attached, I used to fixate on that primary romantic relationship. But I’ve learned to be filled in ways I never thought imaginable.
Right now, I feel so supported by so many people who deeply hold me every day — that’s earned security. That’s what it feels like to move toward it.
And yes, I hope romantic love is mirrored for me — I’m working on that. I appreciate your wish for me. We’ll see.
Shana James (35:32.584)
Such a great point. I grew up in my 20s in authentic community, doing deep process work with people. So in my adult life, I’ve always had that sense of being held and supported.
There are so many people I can go to who really understand and welcome the unraveling — or the awakenings, as you say.
Jessica Baum (35:58.242)
Mm-hmm.
Shana James (35:58.514)
And it changes your life when you’re not just looking for that one person to be your sole supporter. I often encourage people who are dating to create that network and that support system in their lives.
Jessica Baum (36:14.542)
That was probably one of the hardest things for me to reorient to, because I was so used to going straight to a romantic partner. For people who are anxiously attached, that’s the knee-jerk — to go to the one.
But I worked through that, and I’m so grateful now because I feel more secure overall. There’s a level of freedom I can’t even put into words — but the free video I mentioned really dives into that.
Shana James (36:47.52)
Yes, great. One of the ways I talk about this — often with men, though it’s not gender-based — is the freedom that comes from not needing to prove anything.
Not needing to prove your worth, your lovability, or that you’re not too much or not enough. You just get to relax with people — to enjoy, be curious, and be present.
Jessica Baum (37:12.354)
Be present. Yes, for sure.
Shana James (37:16.564)
Thank you so much. We’ll include all your links in the show notes, and do you want to quickly reiterate where people can find you?
Jessica Baum (37:24.194)
You can find me pretty much anywhere — just Google Jessica Baum!
My book Safe is out now. I’m on Instagram at @JessicaBaumLMHC. I also run the Conscious Relationship Group, a coaching collective focused on attachment healing, and the Relationship Institute of Palm Beach, my private practice in Florida.
There are many ways to find me — please do, and please read the book. Let me know what you think, and I’m sending a lot of love to everyone listening.
Shana James (38:06.972)
Thank you so much for your wisdom about how people can heal attachment wounds and feel safe in relationships.
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